also, whitaker chambers to a certain degree. now, there may be some truth and several of these diagnoses, but i don't think any of them are adequate. on the other hand, liberals, too, i think, have had an unusual relationship with their own history and principles. if you look around at books written by liberals about liberalism by eric alderman, many others you will see that the favorite account of themselves out is that liberalism is really nothing more than, as president obama said in his acceptance speech the other day quoting fdr, liberalism is nothing but old persistent experimentation. liberalism is a pragmatic approach, just trying to find out what works to cure our social ills. it is completely on theoretical and i'm a logical.